The Idea 30 & 60W are internal rechargeable battery variable wattage vape mods made by Waidea Times, who is the same manufacturer who made the 1:1 Vaporflask clone that I most recently reviewed. Waidea Times created the Idea 30/60W vape mods to compete with the likes of the Eleaf iStick 30w and Eleaf iStick 50w even more affordable price point. As a note, the idea 30/60 was previously known as the Waidea Storm U30 &60
The Idea 30w and 60W vape mods featured in this review were provided by Waidea Times for the purpose of this product review. The Idea 30 retails for $22.70-$25.88usd, and the Idea 60 for $34.46-$52.99usd. Both the Idea 30 & 60W are packaged in branded zip carry cases, and include a USB charge cord.
IDEA 30/60W SPECIFICATIONS:
- Brand: Waidea Times
- Type: variable wattage vape mod
- Material: aluminum and stainless steel
- Connection threading: 510 (spring loaded)
- Battery compatibility: internal rechargeable battery (idea 30 – 2200mah) (idea 60 – 4400mah)
- Diameter: 21mm- idea 30, 22.5mm- idea 60
- Height: 75mm- idea 30, 86.5mm idea 60
- Weight: 91grams- idea 30, 186 grams- idea 60
- 3.0v-8.0v output
- 7-30W (idea 30) 7-60W (idea 60)
- Fires .30-4.00ohm resistance
- OLED display
- Short circuit protection
- Low battery protection
- High temperature protection
- USB charge port
Let me start out by stating that I have never handled or seen an Eleaf iStick, so I will not be able to make any substantive comparisons between the Idea vape mods, and the iStick beyond how they compare on paper.
The Idea 30W is an itty, bitty little mod, and while I was expecting it to be small, this is the tiniest mod that I have ever held in my hands. It is about the size of a Bic lighter, and twice its width, so the Idea 30W is super pocketable. The Idea 30W is constructed of an anodized aluminum body with stainless steel top/bottom plate which is secured phillips head screws. The Idea 30W is available in silver, black, red, and blue.
The idea 30W houses an internal rechargeable li-polymer batter with a 2200mah capacity. The USB charge port is on the bottom of the mod, and it recharges at a rate of 1A. The overall feel of this mod is surprising solid feeling, and is what I would consider good quality.
The style of the Idea 60W moves more in the direction of Flask while keeping the anodized aluminum finish and button style which is similar to the iStick 50W. When I first saw the Idea 60W in mock ups and promotional photos my feeling was very “NO” however, once I had the actual device in hand my feelings changed quite a bit.
The Idea 60W is not quite as large and wide as it may appear in photos, but what really changed my perception of it is how much sense the shape, and the button and 510 placement makes “ergonomically” speaking. Even as most of us are not used to center placed 510 connections on our APV/Vape mods, in my opinion it makes sense for the same reason that a straw in a the center of a slurpee makes sense. And unlike the Hcigar HB40’s button placement which plays better to right handed users, the Idea 60W has the same feel in both the right and left hand.
The only aspect of the design and style that I do not fancy very much are the color and finish choices, which are very generic in my opinion. Those things aside, the idea 60W feels well constructed and of good quality. The Idea 60W houses an internal 4400mah capacity rechargeable battery, and also has its USB port on the bottom of the device.
Below you will see a size comparison between the Idea 30 and 60W, and also the Idea 60W and the 1:1 Vaporflask clone.
The 510 connections on both the idea 30 & 60 are spring loaded with gold plated center pins. Out of the package I found both spring loaded pins to be rather stiff, and both needed to be broken in order to really get a flush mount with some of my atomizers.
Now the idea 30W being only 21mm in diameter kind of takes it out of contention as a device that can compete with the iStick 30W which has a 23mm 510 connection. I feel it was a mistake to not create an atomizer seat that is at least 22mm in diameter because it limits atomizer compatibility, and I know that many vapers are OCD about flush mounted set ups. That being said, the degree of 22mm atomizer hangover is not egregious.
The Idea 60W is 22.5mm in diameter around the 510 connection, and so it fits well with all of the atomizers that I have mounted to it. Both mods also have deep cut air channels into the 510 connection for any atomizer that receives its air from the 510 connection.
Both the Idea 30 & 60 have OLED display screens which monitor the battery charge level, atomizer resistance, voltage output and wattage setting. The PCB boards have the following safety features:
- Power lock — 5x click
- 10S shut off
- Short circuit protection
- Low battery protection (below 3.2v)
- High temperature protection/shut down
- Pass through capable
- .30-4.00 ohm firing resistance
- 3.0v-8.0v voltage output
Interestingly enough, the OLED display is actually larger on the tiny Idea 30W than it is on the Idea 60W. The OLED display is also much brighter on the Idea 60W, which also made it a challenge to photograph. The atomizer resistance is displayed as “9.9” when there is no atomizer attached. I would have liked to see the resistance zero’d out when there is no atomizer attached.
The firing voltage is only displayed when the fire button is engaged. The OLED display only remains lit for 5 seconds after the fire button is released, which is fine with me during normal use however, this also made capturing the display screen extremely difficult for me. Being that the Idea 30/60W cannot be powered off, and only locked, flash memory is a non-issue.
The one difference that I noticed between the Idea 30 and 60W straight away is that the Idea 30 reads all atomizers .10 higher than the Idea 60W. Being that the resistance display only uses 2 decimal places, atomizer resistance is always rounded up. So a .76 ohm atomizer will be read as.80 ohms, as is the case in the photos below.
Both the Idea 30 and 60 have a flat DC signal output as verified by my inline voltage meter. Based on feeling alone during real world use, both PCB boards have a smooth output. I was totally satisfied by the “feel” of both devices while in use, and neither felt under or overpowered, even as the Idea 30W does read atomizer resistance .10 over the actual resistance.
Below you will see the voltage output of both devices being fired at the top of their wattage range with a .76ohm atomizer. Both devices are pretty accurate in terms of voltage output throughout their wattage ranges, with the Idea 60W being smack on accurate in voltage output at 10, 30, 50, and 60W. While both the Idea 30 and 60W are spec’d for 3.0v-8.0v output, I was able to fire the Idea 30W as low as 2.96v, and the Idea 60W at 2.81v.
Going back to what I had stated earlier in this review about the “generic finishes” of the Idea 30/60, I took the liberty of wrapping the Idea 60W with a 3M vinyl adhesive that gave it a more stylish appearance. In the future I would hope that Waidea would take the finishing of their original products a little further to set them apart from their competition.
I enjoyed the hand feel of the Idea 60W a lot more once I wrapped the body. The fire and wattage up/down buttons of the Idea 60W do not rattle or have any play in them, while the buttons on the Idea 30W do rattle a tiny bit if you shake the device. All in all the Idea 60W is the device that I enjoyed using the most, and will most likely continue to use once this review is done.
In the end it is my opinion that the Idea 60W is the one that can realistically compete with the iStick 50W even as I can only compare them on paper. The solid build quality, smooth chip feel, and bumped up wattage capacity of the Idea 60W does make it a legit contender in my book.
However, I feel that the Idea 30W falls a bit short of its intentions to compete with the iStick 30W. In order to compete with the iStick 30W the Idea 30W mod must at least match the offerings of the iStick, if not exceed them. Due to its 21mm diameter, and slightly inaccurate resistance meter, the Idea 30W fails to do that.
That being said, I would not discard the Idea 30W mod altogether because it does pack a good amount of power into a very small package. While I probably would not choose the Idea 30W as an all day device, I most certainly would grab this for a night out in the city, or pack it into my bag when traveling.